Иллюстрированный журнал обо всем на свете ([info]drugoi) wrote,
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Не хотел ввязываться в эту глупейшую дискуссию, но придется – ссылку на "разбор фейка" прислали уже раз двадцать.

По таймстемпу – это первый снимок из серии. Сделан был тогда, когда приехала "скорая помощь" и стала забирать раненых. Человек в черном – водитель "скорой", по всей видимости. Родственник убитого прибежал позже, перевернул убитого на спину и все остальные снимки сделаны после этого именно в том месте, где была сделана первая фотография, только с другой стороны (там, где стоит человек в черном). Парень в отчаянье разодрал на себе одежду (на нем была майка и тенниска), оставшись в одних джинсах. Убитых потом увезли военные на своем транспорте.













Омерзительно устраивать разборки вокруг таких фотографий. Автор их, Глеб Гаранич – уважаемый украинский фотограф, один из лучших в агентстве. Никогда такой профи не опустится до каких-то постановок, да еще на такую тему. Здесь даже говорить не о чем.

Пообщались с командой Рейтерс. Они разобиженные на российский телеканал Вести - те обвинили их в фейке. Говорят:
-Мы приехали сюда сразу после взрыва, кровь, трупы, люди плачут, а они нам потом - у вас тут люди в кадрах повторяются, это фейк. Подать в суд?


Однако, зачем "Независимая газета" выдает снимки из Гори как цхинвальские – вот вопрос.



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[info]mikl_d1
2008-08-09 08:29 pm UTC (link)
Сколько заплатили?

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[info]display_none
2008-08-09 11:49 pm UTC (link)
Конечно, заплатили) Это грузины расстреливают Цхинвал ракетами. Российские военные забрасывают грузинские села исключительно розами и шампанским. А Другой -- наймит ЦРУ) Правду можно узнать только в газете "Твой День". Ну и по ОРТ ясно дело.

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[info]ol_
2008-08-09 08:30 pm UTC (link)
Говорить здесь о постановке просто дико...

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А о чем не дико?
[info]jivel
2008-08-09 10:11 pm UTC (link)
Давайте загибая пальцы.
1. Сколько времени прошло между бомбардировкой и подъездом "скорой"
2. Каким чудом скромный журналист оказался там в одно и то время? Он наводил авиацию или как там вышло?
3. Зачем такой наигранный ракурс на третьем (сверху) фото? Ведь профессионал фотографировал из положения лежа?
И
4. Куда задевались негативы скромного профессионала сделанные им в Цхинвали? Или его туда забыли позвать?

P.S. Да на фото наверняка труп. Кровь, во всяком случае, выглядит очень похоже на то что не раз видел. Но зачем так художественно?

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Re: А о чем не дико? - [info]ol_, 2008-08-10 08:19 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]andanton
2008-08-09 08:31 pm UTC (link)
Боже мой, Рустем, да ваше ли дело доказывать такие вещи? Доказать что-то возможно оппонентам. Неужели вы тех, кто пишет такие глупости, считаете оппонентами? Право слово, эти люди того не стоят.

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[info]oleg_kozyrev
2008-08-09 08:44 pm UTC (link)
нет, в такое время важно находить островки корректной информации

и иногда стоит какие-то вещи пояснять, особенно не профессионалам

спасибо хозяину дневника за разъяснения

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[info]ancapi
2008-08-09 08:31 pm UTC (link)
Фотограф не опустится, а имперские трупные черви - опустятся. Недавно разбомбленный Гори пытались подать как изничтоженный кровавой грузинской военщиной Цхинвали.

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[info]melodiyamm
2008-08-09 08:38 pm UTC (link)
И Вы не опускайтесь до того, чтобы говорить о грузинском горе, не коснувшись осетинского.
Это общее горе и оно должно сплотить нас всех для того, чтобы прекратилась эта война.
Всех жаль и грузин, и осетинов, какая бы цифра тут не называлась это ЛЮДИ.

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[info]synthetic_girl
2008-08-09 08:31 pm UTC (link)
спасибо

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[info]katrinka2
2008-08-09 08:32 pm UTC (link)
Страшно

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[info]gregorzamza
2008-08-09 08:32 pm UTC (link)
От чего умер человек на фотографии?

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[info]stervenyatko
2008-08-09 08:42 pm UTC (link)
да ..действительно..от чего мог умереть чел-к в горячей точке? от гриппа.угу..

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От осколка ГРУЗИНСКОГО выстрела к танку - [info]gebistkus, 2008-08-09 08:49 pm UTC (Expand)
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Я знаю, чем отличается авиабомба от шального снаряда - [info]gebistkus, 2008-08-09 10:18 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]sanpelegrino
2008-08-09 08:34 pm UTC (link)
Кровная месть оккупантам!

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[info]patarakina
2008-08-09 08:35 pm UTC (link)
спасибо большое

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[info]hangoverman
2008-08-09 08:36 pm UTC (link)
Рустем, не надо, никому не докажешь, Гаранич не станет снимать подставу, это понятно....

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[info]pashyrey
2008-08-09 09:02 pm UTC (link)
зря вы так. Большинству читателей имя фотографа ничего не говорит. Сейчас столько лжи что ничего удивительного в том что очень многие все поддают сомнению. Поэтому доказывать надо. Не тем кто не верит, а тем у кого здоровое и нужное в этой ситуации сомнение.

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[info]aleksiy
2008-08-09 08:37 pm UTC (link)
то, что это не постановка, разве что совсем уж неадекватному человеку в голову придет

не думаю, что вы этого не понимаете. тогда зачем совсем уж запредельную пургу гнать? чтобы с работодателем отношения не ипортить?

типа НТВ времен чеченской решили возродить в другом формате? типа другой в киселевы решил записаться.

ну-ну

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[info]drugoi
2008-08-09 08:38 pm UTC (link)
??

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[info]garpoon
2008-08-09 08:38 pm UTC (link)
ответьте пожалуйста - где есть фотографии Цхинвали и этих 2000 трупов?

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[info]drugoi
2008-08-09 08:42 pm UTC (link)
пока нигде нет. есть только беженцы, ополченцы и наши танки.

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[info]argument152
2008-08-09 08:38 pm UTC (link)
где на сайте нг написанно что это снимки цхинвала? там набор фото с войны, вверху надпись - цхинвали больше нет. что не так?

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[info]drugoi
2008-08-09 08:41 pm UTC (link)
"Города Цхинвали больше не существует. Его просто нет..."
Фото: Reuters

+ текстовка про Цхинвали справа.

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[info]chaotist
2008-08-09 08:39 pm UTC (link)
Спасибо, а я было уже Дмитрий Юричу поверил =(

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[info]drugoi
2008-08-09 08:43 pm UTC (link)
здесь даже обсуждать нечего, я не могу понять отчего так все возбудились.

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дискуссия действительно идиотская
[info]viebelle
2008-08-09 08:42 pm UTC (link)
как можно подумать, что в такой ситуации кто-то будет делать постановку и- самое дикое - в ней участвовать?!
но мне кажется, это правильно, что вы об этом написали

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Re: дискуссия действительно идиотская
[info]archer5
2008-08-09 09:00 pm UTC (link)
Вы посмотрите фильм "Хвост виляет собакой".

Очень познавательно, даже при том, что он уже несколько устарел.

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[info]4002
2008-08-09 08:43 pm UTC (link)
а зачем вообще снимать такое???
мало Треша в жизни????
хочется остренького???
идите в морг переночевать!
ФОТОГРАФ БЕЗЧУВССТВЕННАЯ СКОТИНА!

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[info]patarakina
2008-08-09 08:47 pm UTC (link)
эта тема частенько поднимается.
снимать или не снимать войну и прочие беды.
фотографируют не на память в альбомчик, фотография - как источник информации.
фотограф добывает информацию. мы ее получаем.
просто работа такая.

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[info]king_of_congo
2008-08-09 08:44 pm UTC (link)
Только очень недалёкий человек может принять эти фото за постановку.

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[info]_pg_
2008-08-09 08:52 pm UTC (link)
Увы, в политических целях еще и не такое делают.

Вон, в Ираке американцы целую видеоисторию про штурм больницы и вызволение американки-заложницы сделали. А при проверке оказалось, что она от начала до конца срежиссирована пентагоном.

В общем, "граждане, будьте бдительны". Сочувствие сегодня - такой же товар как и прочее.

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[info]wwworld
2008-08-09 08:45 pm UTC (link)
Господи, кому Вы это говорите? В ру_политикс столько дегенератов собралось, которые как раз и обмусоливали эти снимки. Но радует другое - что есть еще нормальные люди, хоть их и немного.

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[info]mp5a3
2008-08-10 05:54 am UTC (link)
Т.е. все, кто смотрят в рот зарубежным СМИ - нормальные люди, а остальные, позволившие себе усомниться в беспристрастности этих СМИ - дегенераты. Браво, так держать!

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[info]cartesius
2008-08-09 08:46 pm UTC (link)
А откуда взялась длинная пластиковая бутылка на последних двух фотках?
На первых двух ее не было. Подкладывать ее в руку трупу смысла особенного не вижу.

И откуда информация о разодранных тенниске и майке? На фотографиях их тоже нет.

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[info]hauptpostamt
2008-08-09 08:49 pm UTC (link)
+1!

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Война - дерьмо. - [info]kempworker, 2008-08-10 01:54 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Война - дерьмо. - [info]llesha, 2008-08-10 07:53 am UTC (Expand)
Те, кто развязывают войны - преступники. - [info]purrrsik, 2008-08-10 10:39 am UTC (Expand)
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земля ему пухом...
[info]xeon_82
2008-08-09 10:03 pm UTC (link)
Он выполнял свой долг.
А клочек земли грузинской нахер никому не нужен, у нас своей полно.
Единственное из-за чего там гибнут наши военные, и этот летчик в том числе, это ради того, чтобы не дать уничтожить тысячи жизней.
Геноцид и фашизм - это накрывать спящий город (с мирным населением в том числе) огнем РСЗО "Град".
Вы видели последствия хотя бы одного залпа Града? Это не точечная зачистка, это полное уничтожение целых кварталов. Поступкам Саакашвили позвидовал бы Гитлер.

P.S. Троли, пишушие с только что зарегистрированных и пустых аккаунтов, за сколько вы продали душу?

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Re: Борьба за територи Грузии. - [info]bacian, 2008-08-09 10:11 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Борьба за територи Грузии. - [info]rexima, 2008-08-09 10:21 pm UTC (Expand)

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[info]jlocb
2008-08-09 08:47 pm UTC (link)
Жоржия ОВНЕД !!!

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[info]vredniy
2008-08-09 08:47 pm UTC (link)
постановка чистой воды

зы - еще фото "мудрый бабку с раненый пацан" назавите подлинным, ага.

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[info]hauptpostamt
2008-08-09 08:49 pm UTC (link)
+1!

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Тут интересное - [info]melekhov, 2008-08-10 04:42 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Тут интересное - [info]yu_khristich, 2008-08-10 07:08 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]light_messiah
2008-08-09 08:48 pm UTC (link)
Простите, пожалуйста, но кто именно повинен в ударах по городу Гори? Не хочется голословности и неуместных обвинений любой из сторон.

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Мишка Олимпийский и его дуболомы
[info]gebistkus
2008-08-09 08:53 pm UTC (link)
Устроили склад боеприпасов вблизи жилья.
Все повреждения домом - от разлетающихся выстрелов с горящего склада.

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[info]mike_sok
2008-08-09 08:51 pm UTC (link)
Омерзительно устраивать разборки вокруг таких фотографий.

ничего омерзительного и даже удивительного в этом не вижу

после публикации Рейтерсом целой серии фейковых фото во время Ливанской войны, сомнения в достоверности их материала вполне обоснованны

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[info]drugoi
2008-08-09 08:54 pm UTC (link)
фейковое фото у стрингера, услугами которого неосмотрительно воспользовался Reuters, было одно. после этого все фотографии были удалены из базы и контракт расторгнут.

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[info]sartoris
2008-08-09 08:52 pm UTC (link)
То что из Цхинвале нет фотографий - действительно странно. По всей видимости это означает, что ситуацию там не контролирует никто. Иначе бы фотографии появились бы немедленно. В интересах обеих сторон показать, что там к чему...

Разборки устраивать бред полный. Но на руку ситуации играет (к сожалению) тот факт, что понять о какой местности идет речь по фотографиям или лицам - невозможно. Думаю что редакторы просто шлепают то, что попадается под руку, не вдаваясь в подробности... Время фотошопа и продуманных подтасовок, увы, еще впереди:(

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[info]oulenspiegel
2008-08-09 09:05 pm UTC (link)
Видите-ли, фотографии есть. Но Рустем стесняется их показывать (он добавил их в один из своих постов под кат с пометочной UPDATE, а вот фото из Грузии даёт неприменно крупным планом).

http://milkavkaz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9956#9956

"Вы не всему верьте, что генерал рассказывает. Он иногда всё-таки искажает окружающую действительность: противника дезинформирует".

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