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Прыжок Шумана

Фотография: Питер Лейбинг

Знаменитый снимок Питера Лейбинга — солдат армии ГДР бежит из восточного сектора Берлина в западный.

15 августа 1961 г., на третий день после начала возведения Берлинской стены, в 16:00 в районе Бернауэрштрассе 19-летний военнослужащий пограничных войск Конрад Шуман перепрыгнул через мотки колючей проволоки, обозначающие линию будущей стены, и добежал до машины полиции Западного Берлина, которая стояла неподалеку. Конраду повезло — в то время в армии ГДР еще не было приказа стрелять по беглецам.

Позже он получил разрешение перебраться на территорию Западной Германии и остался жить в Баварии. В 1998 г., страдая от тяжелого психического заболевания, Шуман покончил жизнь самоубийством.

Тот прыжок из одного мира в другой, ставший одним из символов "холодной войны", обрел вещественную форму:


© REUTERS/Fabrizio Bensch

Теперь в Берлине, в том же месте улицы Бернауэрштрассе, где раньше была Стена, стоит скульптура "Mauerspringer" (Прыгающий через стену) работы Флориана и Микаэля Брауэров и Эдварда Андерса.

Побеги через стену
Готовили побег через стену — около 70 тыс. человек
Привлечены к уголовной ответственности за подготовку побега — около 60 тыс. человек
Успешно преодолели стену 5043 человека, в том числе 574 военнослужащих
Арестованы в районе стены — 3221 человек
Убиты при попытке преодолеть стену — 160-938 человек*
Ранены при попытке преодолеть стену — 120-260 человек*
Убито солдат и полицейских, охранявших стену — 27 человек
Случаи штурма стены с попыткой ее повреждения — 35
*По разным источникам; статистика побегов и жертв фальсифицировалась властями ГДР.

Побег с препятствиями/Коммерсантъ

Фильм "За каменной стеной" на сайте "Немецкой волны"

5 мая 1962 года по тоннелю, прорытому в районе Гросс-Глиник, на Запад перешла группа из 12 человек. Тоннель длиной 32 метра совками и штыком времен Первой мировой войны удалось выкопать за 16 дней. На вопрос, зачем тоннель имел высоту 1 метр 75 сантиметров, один из беглецов ответил: "Хотели выйти на свободу с поднятой головой".


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[info]goran_iovich
2009-07-30 07:11 am UTC (link)
снимок вовсе не забытый.

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[info]drugoi
2009-07-30 07:13 am UTC (link)
а кто пишет, что он забытый?

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[info]mamedali
2009-07-30 07:12 am UTC (link)
Мило.

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Jedem Bauer seine Mauer
[info]onkel_hans
2009-07-30 03:17 pm UTC (link)
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[info]olegcheb
2009-07-30 07:12 am UTC (link)
Да уж, и на воздушных шарах перелетали и подкопы делали, а в 1989 году все равно объединились и эти мерзкие коммуняки ничего не смогли сделать!

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[info]hic_sunt_leonis
2009-07-30 10:51 am UTC (link)
Просто к сведению: на сегодняшний день более половины населения бывшего ГДР (имеются в виду те, кто остался на территории ГДР, а не перебрался в западную часть страны) сожалеют об объединении и признают, что жизнь в ГДР была не так уж плоха. В некоторых районах ГДР безработица достигает 50%. Сейчас они пытаются восстановить советскую инфраструктуру - крупные поликлиники взамен частных праксисов, большие детские сады на полный день и т.д.
Насчет убитых и раненых - любое государство защищает себя как может. Сравните статистику - сколько людей было убито и арестовано в ФРГ во время массовых демонтсраций в 60-е годы.

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сколько людей было убито и арестовано в ФРГ во время ма - [info]texnews, 2009-07-30 04:37 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]ejik_v_2mane
2009-07-30 07:12 am UTC (link)
Памятник на флюгер похож.

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stallone ment
[info]hic_sunt_leonis
2009-07-30 10:53 am UTC (link)
+1 Ветер подует в другую сторону и он развернется наоборот :)

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Re: stallone ment - [info]nfb, 2009-07-30 04:50 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]kortunov
2009-07-30 07:13 am UTC (link)
Что-то скульптор как-то не продумал крепление прыгуна. Какая-то балка страшная. Плохой, негодный ваятель!

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[info]_bigpig_
2009-07-30 07:42 am UTC (link)
не чета церетелли нашему!

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[info]salvodos
2009-07-30 07:13 am UTC (link)
солдат молодец, а памятник, по-моему, не очень удачный.

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[info]edelveis8
2009-07-30 08:05 am UTC (link)
да. лицо без эмоций.

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[info]hazimir_fenring
2009-07-30 07:13 am UTC (link)
Рустем, читали уже, что товарищ Ким Чен Ир оказался самым крутым гольфистом в мире, запулив 11 hole-in-one в течение одной игры?)

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[info]drugoi
2009-07-30 07:28 am UTC (link)
да, в Известиях сейчас прочитал. здорово. корейцы молодцы.

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[info]object
2009-07-30 07:14 am UTC (link)
Не хватает статистики о том, сколько западных немцев было убито западно-берлинскими пограничниками при попытке побега в свободную ГДР.

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[info]prox
2009-07-30 07:16 am UTC (link)
Хаха! xD

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Западный Берлин - [info]jazzavva, 2009-07-30 03:20 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Западный Берлин - [info]geneus, 2009-07-30 03:42 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]statzman
2009-07-30 07:17 am UTC (link)
А почему у него ППШ? Разве их не сняли к тому времени с вооружения?

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[info]flinter_ab
2009-07-30 07:45 am UTC (link)
Нет, сняли его только в СССР в связи с переходом на АК-47. В странах Варшавского договора он использовался еще долго. В принципе, "машина надежная, убойная" (с)

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[info]alexizm
2009-07-30 07:18 am UTC (link)
А от судьбы рядовой Шуман так и не смог убежать.

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[info]flashhhh
2009-07-30 07:30 am UTC (link)
Видать от себя не убежишь.

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почти согласен - [info]barribred, 2009-07-30 03:55 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: почти согласен - [info]alexizm, 2009-07-30 05:30 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]isolo
2009-07-30 07:18 am UTC (link)
лучше бы его за ногу крепили, чем так
напоминает виселицу при определенных ракурсах

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[info]alexmacc
2009-07-30 08:04 am UTC (link)
ага. странно в германии китайский подход видеть.

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Памятник говно... - [info]somniumus, 2009-07-30 03:01 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]krakozyabla
2009-07-30 07:19 am UTC (link)
както некраси памятник выглядит, как кукла. Нет жизни присутсвующей в фотографии.

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[info]edelveis8
2009-07-30 08:09 am UTC (link)
да. снимок намного удачней. нужно было немцам царители пригласить :)

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[info]gondesign
2009-07-30 07:19 am UTC (link)
Памятник убогий и висит на такой высоте, как-будто солдатик спайдермэн.
Похоже, как-будто из манекена сделан.

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[info]surgut_cirquit
2009-07-30 10:46 am UTC (link)
Непонятны размеры памятника.
Если это небольшая, камерная скульптура, где-нить с метр ростом - то вполне может вписаться в ландшафт.
А если тамошнего скульптора консультировал Церетели - имеет смысл натравить на памятник цыган. Дабы разобрали его в металлолом

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[info]taolmaen
2009-07-30 07:20 am UTC (link)
Млин. Ведь не похоже. На фото очень похоже, а памятник халтура. (Или дайте ещё фоток памятника, чтоб разглядеть.)

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[info]foxtrotru
2009-07-30 07:20 am UTC (link)
Fabrizio Bensch имхо не помнит фотографию, если так скульптуру сфотографировал. Ракурс с Г-образной подпоркой имхо вообще без комментариев


здесь получше,
но я бы в ч/б перевел (сейчас не могу)

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[info]motinga
2009-07-30 07:37 am UTC (link)
да и композиция там не очень, а вот здесь классно - строго по центру! И фон у вас отлично подобран, ну что это за чистенькие дома и небо у Fabrizio Bensch (я еще, понимаю сделал бы линию горизонта посередине) - вобщем сплошной непрофессионализм.

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[info]doppeltes
2009-07-30 07:21 am UTC (link)
он же дезертир, правильно?

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[info]mr_quietest
2009-07-30 07:24 am UTC (link)
Он - свободный человек

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[info]rouger
2009-07-30 07:24 am UTC (link)
да..знаковый снимок..

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[info]yusev_alexei
2009-07-30 07:24 am UTC (link)
а в обратную сторону сколько бежало, не сообщается?

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[info]mr_quietest
2009-07-30 07:24 am UTC (link)
Что, были такие идиоты?
Ссылки - в студию!

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[info]mr_quietest
2009-07-30 07:24 am UTC (link)
Отлично!

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[info]monahov
2009-07-30 07:24 am UTC (link)
Нда, памятник с любых ракурсов убогий.

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[info]natyslik
2009-07-30 07:43 am UTC (link)
просто не хватает движения - он статичный какой-то...нет пластики

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"Не шмогла..." (С) - [info]bdm, 2009-07-30 10:40 am UTC (Expand)

[info]narval
2009-07-30 07:25 am UTC (link)
По настоящему историческая фотография!
Спасибо за ссылку на статью.
Если сама Берлинская стена - символ "холодной войны", то попытки ее преодолеть - бессмертный символ стремления человека к свободе!

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[info]yarost
2009-07-31 10:06 am UTC (link)
Надо же с каким пафосом можно превознести простое дезертирство.

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[info]vkulik
2009-07-30 07:25 am UTC (link)
А ещё нужен памятник еврейской семье улетающей из СССР на землю обетованную. Вот в каком бы его аэропорту установить? В Одессе? Там тогда не было прямых рейсов. В Шереметьево наверное, вроде был рейс Москва-Вена(ближайшая капстрана).

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[info]foxtrotru
2009-07-30 07:30 am UTC (link)
в Швехате (Вена)

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[info]linkod
2009-07-30 07:26 am UTC (link)
не удивлюсь если большая часть беглецов страдала как и этот дезертир болезнями головы (точнее души). может все таки диссиденты справедливо находились в дурдомах? вот слушаю Новодворскую, Каспарова и думаю что справедливо...

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[info]motinga
2009-07-30 07:41 am UTC (link)
Севу Новгородцева не слушаете?

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(no subject) - [info]whitebear, 2009-08-02 11:20 am UTC (Expand)
Свободу не остановить
[info]mordobox
2009-07-30 07:26 am UTC (link)
<<"Хотели выйти на свободу с поднятой головой">>
На этой фразе в голове всплыл лозунг киевского Майдана 2004 "Свободу нэ спыниты"

Тоталитаризм, однако, штука страшная. Только наступает он незаметно. И ужасно хочется от него сбежать.

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[info]cannavaro_f2
2009-07-30 07:27 am UTC (link)
бросил семью и убежал, зато у самого жопа в тепле. молодец.

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[info]sekvoya
2009-07-30 09:47 am UTC (link)
в 19 лет редко думают о семье

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